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Pitlord

Post  Ace Ventura on Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:25 pm

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Post  J.P.P.P.P.P on Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:48 pm

Cleave needs to have more effect on lower levels and so does howl of terror. Ultimate creeps should have magic and damage resistance and maybe increased movement speed. Alternatively pitlord could be given a new ultimate, still called doom, that disables a hero or units health and mana regeneration and slows them for a certain time.

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Post  CoolRasta on Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:15 am

i reapeat maybe but why wanan make other spell than default one???

just make them stronger for exemple


pl is rly fat , have hard time to creep until high lvl and more hard time to kill hero^^

no funny hero to play, rain is too short or low damage until lvl8 so rly hard to do something

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Post  Valah_LeNoob on Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:29 pm

Think he is one of the weakest heroes on map, and the votes show it as well. Of course uber skilled players could make something out of him, still against real opponents he will always be behind. Only a retard will not see his ulti on human creeps, and get away. And try running away with the fat bastard. Cleave will help you creep more later in game, but try to creep with later in game focus on you, since nobody wants a pl grown out of control.Rain of fire good also for creeping late in game, but late in game nobody plays for creeping, but ganging, and hero killing wise pl is useless.

Maybe change his rain of fire to lets say meteorite, very low damage but stun effect, or same efect as MK's thunder clap, damage+slow, then he might get more usefulness.

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Post  J.P.P.P.P.P on Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:14 pm

Valah_LeNoob wrote:

Maybe change his rain of fire to lets say meteorite, very low damage but stun effect, or same efect as MK's thunder clap, damage+slow, then he might get more usefulness.

Then he has no way of creeping well. His ulti is very good for hero focus if you micro it right.

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Re: Pitlord

Post  Valah_LeNoob on Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:37 am

well he cans till creep from"meteorite", he gets like 240? damage lvl 10, + speed slow, don't remember what Mk has, haven't played him in ages. But exactly in the manner MK manages to creep with his thunder clap, pl can do same, only ranged . U still have cleave for creeping, but this way u can't be a bit more usefull hero killing wise. And again, ulti works only vs noobs or careless players, i mean if u play vs pit lord, of course u look after the red circle on ur units= pl ulti, and get into safer range. And yes with his ulti he can creep a bit more, but infernal knight criple spell way to short duration to help catch an enemy hero.

Agin i feel like he needs a skill to be more usefull hero killing wise. right now he creeps good with cleave and rain of fire, a bit with his ulti, and if ops aren't carefull u can try to catch them with ulti, but if ops carefulland ranged, they just get a bit back, and enjoy the infernal knight feeding.......

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Post  J.P.P.P.P.P on Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:34 am

Valah_LeNoob wrote:
Agin i feel like he needs a skill to be more usefull hero killing wise. right now he creeps good with cleave and rain of fire, a bit with his ulti, and if ops aren't carefull u can try to catch them with ulti, but if ops carefulland ranged, they just get a bit back, and enjoy the infernal knight feeding.......

Try this valah: use cripple on an enemy hero, set your pitlord to attack the, manually control the doom guard and run along side the hero to stun them with stomp, move in front of the hero and block them with the doom guard while your hero kills them, if they start to get away, then simply stun again. This is a really nice way of killing heros especialy if you have 1 or 2 allies with you.

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Re: Pitlord

Post  Valah_LeNoob on Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:23 pm

again i say, this works only vs noobs, or Lec Very Happy, since he always tends to go in front no matter what ur throwing at him. If u play vs me, u'll never get the chance to do this, unless helped by ally with net/hex/sleep etc. worse case scenario i use anti magic and tp away. But yes of course, against noobs, or careless ppl u can definitely do it.

For me is insane to play a map without taking into consideration the spells/abilities of the heroes ur playing against, if u play vs pit lord u know what to expect, and if u get pawned oh well........

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Post  Ace Ventura on Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:29 pm

Valah_LeNoob wrote:worse case scenario i use anti magic and tp away. But yes of course, against noobs, or careless ppl u can definitely do it.

dispell antimagic and stun Smile
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Re: Pitlord

Post  Valah_LeNoob on Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:52 pm

hmm, infernal knight has dispel?? don't remember that since i played like a million years ago with him, otherwise there is only lighting orb for dispel horde wise. Still u must be inconscient to see the spell on ur unit, and not get far and away from it Evil or Very Mad

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Re: Pitlord

Post  Gast on Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:08 am

i don´t think that u can dispell antimagic without purge the normal aoe magickill e.g. of the blue ppanda is useless afaik

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Post  Ace Ventura on Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:42 pm

?!
u can dispell antimagic-shield with the dispell of the pitlords ultimate (and with the blue/storm panda ultimate)

i did this a few times....or i was allways lucky that the shield just ended in that moment sceptical
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Post  Bushfire on Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:36 pm

SilentchiLL wrote:i don´t think that u can dispell antimagic without purge the normal aoe magickill e.g. of the blue ppanda is useless afaik

u can do it.
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Post  Gast on Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:19 pm

scooby wrote:?!
u can dispell antimagic-shield with the dispell of the pitlords ultimate (and with the blue/storm panda ultimate)

i did this a few times....or i was allways lucky that the shield just ended in that moment sceptical

didn´t worked for me last time but i´s been a while since i played panda...

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Post  Bushfire on Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:54 pm

u can do with doomguard.
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Post  motion_man on Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:17 am

with few ranged heros, doom guard falls down within seconds, dispel is good, stun is ok too (if u manage to get that fat fuck near them), rain of fire is shit dmg, and cripple should be better. 1 aura and boots and u outrun "cripple"(if thats what we can call it), ya rite...
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Re: Pitlord

Post  Gast on Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:55 pm

seems 2 be better now a random played it and with a bit help of me (got dl)
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Re: Pitlord

Post  Valah_LeNoob on Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:16 pm

Overall vote says it all, it must be improved a bit, please change rain of fire??? withg my meteorite!!! Very Happy:D

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Re: Pitlord

Post  Ace Ventura on Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:22 pm

made pitlords rain of fire a bit stronger and gave him more agi/lvl
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Post  motion_man on Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:56 pm

mb to make him faster and/or smaller? hes too fat to maneuver through the battle and too slow to block escapers (or run away)
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Re: Pitlord

Post  Tenoziw on Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:11 am

I must agree with many things said here.

He need to be improved, he can only creep kill in late game, and he can not make hero kills as easily as other heroes.

And his ulti is not so good desperate Doom is easily killed, and its slow.

The crazy op Dreadlord have a way better ulti, Infernal, it got no spells but it got way better dmg/life, and its magic resistance.
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Post  Ace Ventura on Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:40 am

motion_man wrote:mb to make him faster and/or smaller? hes too fat to maneuver through the battle and too slow to block escapers (or run away)
he has now same size like panda, beastmaster and tinker etc. (size: 1.7)
all heroes have same movementspeed (300)


Tenoziw wrote:And his ulti is not so good desperate Doom is easily killed, and its slow.

The crazy op Dreadlord have a way better ulti, Infernal, it got no spells but it got way better dmg/life, and its magic resistance.
his ultimate has magic resistance if you skill it to lvl3 or higher....

maybe as clerc alrdy mentioned one stronger doomguard instead of two doomguards??
and yes the movementspeed of the doom (270) is compared to inferno (320) too slow
maybe 300 for both?
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Post  Bushfire on Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:50 am

scooby wrote:
motion_man wrote:mb to make him faster and/or smaller? hes too fat to maneuver through the battle and too slow to block escapers (or run away)
he has now same size like panda, beastmaster and tinker etc. (size: 1.7)
all heroes have same movementspeed (300)


Tenoziw wrote:And his ulti is not so good desperate Doom is easily killed, and its slow.

The crazy op Dreadlord have a way better ulti, Infernal, it got no spells but it got way better dmg/life, and its magic resistance.
his ultimate has magic resistance if you skill it to lvl3 or higher....

maybe as clerc alrdy mentioned one stronger doomguard instead of two doomguards??
and yes the movementspeed of the doom (270) is compared to inferno (320) too slow
maybe 300 for both?


no no 2doomguards imba if u can micro Smile
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Post  Ace Ventura on Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:53 pm

BushFire wrote:
no no 2doomguards imba if u can micro Smile
i actualy like them like they are atm too, ofc enemies can kill them very easy at the end, but u have 2 of them and with one of them u can still do shit while enemies kill the 2nd one wink

and yes i like to micro them too, but sometimes i forget my hero and after the dooms are gone i wonder where my hero is^^
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Post  Tenoziw on Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:25 pm

scooby wrote:
his ultimate has magic resistance if you skill it to lvl3 or higher....

maybe as clerc alrdy mentioned one stronger doomguard instead of two doomguards??
and yes the movementspeed of the doom (270) is compared to inferno (320) too slow
maybe 300 for both?

Ok, why so dots? Sad


Yeah, sounds better, one stronger doomguard instead of 2, and fix the movespeed and it would be nice Smile
Maybe 320 for both? (Depends on much heroes have, I dont know)
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