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Re: Alchi

Post  Tenoziw on Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:14 pm

When I last played he had way too long cd on rage and his throw thing, Idk if its same cooldowns now, but if so its too long cd.
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Re: Alchi

Post  XioNiDaS on Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:48 am

Definately too long cd for acid bomb.
Rage is ok i think.
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Re: Alchi

Post  Mathees on Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:26 am

xionidas wrote:Definately too long cd for acid bomb.

what?

acid bomb is like a wave ( like from batman, kubi, dl etc , i think its all have the same cd, maybe the acid bomb has a longer cd, but u also have to think that it reduces the armor, which rocks in earlygames + easier to creep

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Re: Alchi

Post  PureOwn4ge on Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:32 am

alchie is a nice hero..
dont need to fix anything->
less cd for acid ?! never, would be damn imba...
more gold for ulti ? wooot, 50g is more than enough i always play alchie mana shower 3, acid full, rest ulti->each 16sec(lvl5 i think) 50g...
later reskill rage acid
-> ulti rocks damn hard, u get a lot of extra money and u creep well with acid
alos, its a str hero -> doesnt die that fast with mb 1shield(means tank with nice dmg cuz acid and top supporter cuz mana shower)....
and imagine u would have low cd on acid and rage -> bb all int heroes with lil support by ur mates...would be so fucking imba, pls DONT do it

alchie is ok as he is
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Re: Alchi

Post  Bushfire on Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:11 am

PureOwn4ge wrote: rest ulti->each 16sec(lvl5 i think) 50g...

1. I dont believe that simply for the fact that there are enough knights( they have a bigger spawn time than 15sec) and if u kill other units u dont get 50 gold.

2.Its pointless to skill ulti till lvl 6 u can kill much more creeps with 5lvl higher rage than with ulti lvl6. because ulti lvl1 matches perfect with the spawn time and u can kill every time the knight just because the cooldown seems to be kinda similar to spawn time.
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Re: Alchi

Post  Bushfire on Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:13 am

Orc.Slayer wrote:mhm ulti should be changed?
15 seconds cooldown = 3 creeps per wave, all about 100 gold
is quite good for me, I got no probs with it
u should read.
i said increase gold amount instead of cooldown.
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Re: Alchi

Post  Orc.Slayer on Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:02 pm

Bushfire wrote:
Orc.Slayer wrote:mhm ulti should be changed?
15 seconds cooldown = 3 creeps per wave, all about 100 gold
is quite good for me, I got no probs with it
u should read.
i said increase gold amount instead of cooldown.

you should read
I didn't talk about your suggestion, I described the situation as it is now and said that I am fine with it

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Re: Alchi

Post  Bushfire on Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:44 pm

Orc.Slayer wrote:
Bushfire wrote:
Orc.Slayer wrote:mhm ulti should be changed?
15 seconds cooldown = 3 creeps per wave, all about 100 gold
is quite good for me, I got no probs with it
u should read.
i said increase gold amount instead of cooldown.

you should read
I didn't talk about your suggestion, I described the situation as it is now and said that I am fine with it

well then ur reply was pointless and not really helpful
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Re: Alchi

Post  PureOwn4ge on Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:27 pm

Bushfire wrote:
Orc.Slayer wrote:
Bushfire wrote:
Orc.Slayer wrote:mhm ulti should be changed?
15 seconds cooldown = 3 creeps per wave, all about 100 gold
is quite good for me, I got no probs with it
u should read.
i said increase gold amount instead of cooldown.

you should read
I didn't talk about your suggestion, I described the situation as it is now and said that I am fine with it

well then ur reply was pointless and not really helpful

dunno just wanted to have the quote quote quote quote.....and to calm the situation a bit down^^
a)the ost was helpful, cuz u should say if alchie is ok or if he needs some fixes -> orc says its ok
b)hes correct
c)to ur idea: dont think so, cuz the gold amount is more enough, imaine u lvl it a bit up -> lower cd, each wave about 2units
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Re: Alchi

Post  Cain on Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:28 pm

Dunno i think 47 seconds is a bit long on acid bomb i can't remember how much cooldown waves have but it's quite a big difference.

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Re: Alchi

Post  Orc.Slayer on Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:31 pm

ye totally pointless....
imagine I'd write "fs lightning is too weak!" (just an example...)
if anyone disagrees, he mustnt write anything confused ? interesting conclusion

however, back2topic:
setting the cooldown to 45 seconds for each level and increase mancosts and extra gold
maybe: 100, 120, 140, 160, 180, 200 mana
0 40 80 120 160 200 extra gold (more/less?)
it wouldn't cost that much mana anymore and would give a noticable bonus, lvl 6 would equal 1unit/7seconds

just an idea, edit it a bit
but as I already stated, I wouldn't change it, since you can kill quite a lot of units with it

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Re: Alchi

Post  Bushfire on Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:26 pm

Orc.Slayer wrote:
if anyone disagrees, he mustnt write anything confused ? interesting conclusion

u think alchi is fine and voted him balanced i guess.

so why u also need to write that down?!
for me is that only some kind of spam.
imagine everyone would write to every hero " y hes okay. i like him" than we would have 300replys for no reason..
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Re: Alchi

Post  PureOwn4ge on Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:34 pm

since there are just some few guys voting anyway(11 in this case) it shouldnt matter that the guys who voted him balanced give their comments also.....
and ofc they have to say sth. if they disagree with an other opinion -> called discussion
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Re: Alchi

Post  Bushfire on Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:50 pm

PureOwn4ge wrote:since there are just some few guys voting anyway(11 in this case) it shouldnt matter that the guys who voted him balanced give their comments also.....
and ofc they have to say sth. if they disagree with an other opinion -> called discussion
well however lets cut the crap and stop this pointless debate
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Re: Alchi

Post  Ace Ventura on Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:02 pm

changed ulti:
increased cd: lvl1 55sec (before 50) ... lvl10 15sec (same like before)
increased mana-costs: lvl1 100mana (same like before) ... lvl6 200mana (before 150)
increased gold-factor: lvl1 0.8 (before 0.75) ... lvl6 2.2 (before 2)

about cd of bomb:
yes its very high for a normal spell with 47sec on lvl10, BUT its one of the most powerfull normal spells, on higher lvls more effective than waves and compared to waves it also helps a lot to kill enemy-heroes!
if you dont like the high cd just skill it to lvl6 and u`ll have a cd like the waves (32sec) and still decreasing 7 armor, doing 28dmg/sec for 14sec(units)/11sec(heroes)
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Re: Alchi

Post  Steel.DX on Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:35 pm

i think the manarain has suffered too much^^
the cooldown at low lvl is too high, reduce it to maybe 70-80% of the current cooldown. the mana gain (25 points) alt lvl 1 is ridiculously low imo. maybe fix it by small amounts and see how it turns out.
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Re: Alchi

Post  curious_SpiriT on Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:48 pm

So I´m the only one who rated +++ ? biggrin Well, I´d like to justify my rate.
Like everyone might know the alchi is in right hands an imba creeper.
with his ulti he gets a lot of creeps and the acid bomb a lot too.
Before the mana shower became so weak he was a great supporter too!
and in late game when you reskill completely to chemi rage and acid bomb he is a great hero killer!
You just have to know how to play him,...... and you get fucking imba! btw, the only no agi hero who can mess alone with an agi hero, that has good stats
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Re: Alchi

Post  Shin_Megami on Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:53 pm

i disagree to ur last sentence spirit ^^

example naga guard now Razz if u creep with him + rage lvl 6 he is an excellent herokiller and he isnt an agi hero Wink

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Re: Alchi

Post  Steel.DX on Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:10 pm

increase a little the net mana gain of the low lvl mana shower, i.e. decrease the cost.

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